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Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

Wes — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:51:32 -0000

So, I push, BB calls all-in for less (whaaa?) and MP calls, as well. The full call of my all-in was over 50% of his stack. BB turns over Js9s, which I completely did not see coming, and MP turns over 55, for a set of 5s. Turn card is his magic case 5, hits miracle quads and takes down a nearly $700 pot that he had no business winning.

Suffice to say, I did not hit my straight flush on the river. But the river was the 10s, so I would have been fucked even if my reads were more correct.

I hate 1-2.

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

iflyhigh — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:18:39 -0000

So what the hell happenend??? Don't leave me hanging!

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

jawngee — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:02:05 -0000

I'd be thinking almost the same thing. BB is feeling, MP is protecting.

It's a fucked situation, MP is going to call you any which way you
go. If you push, he calls, if you smooth call, he gets his flush.

The math says to push, you are ~75% to win (4% chance to hit that
straight flush) but, on the other hand, it's possible that this guy
has a J or T high flush and is protecting it against the K. But if
all he has is a flush draw he can't call if you've made it 270 to
roll, but in 1/2 anything is possible. So, yeah, you have to raise
here. It's really the only thing to do.

You could fold, you're only in for $10 at this point, but the $100 bet
from MP is fishy. I'm trying to think what would prompt me to overbet
the pot like that in MP with a flush draw on board. By raising here,
I'm giving two people the opportunity to reraise me. I'm guessing
that $100 was 25% of his stack? For me to make that bet in MP I'd have
to have second nuts or better or top pair/overpair with a high spade
for the flush draw. Or trips. I'm not going to raise 55 or 66, but
I'll call $10 to see a flop. I hit a set and I'm going to bet to
protect it. But in this case, I'd make a safety bet to see where they
are at, so I'm not going to put 25% of my stack out there, maybe a pot
sized bet, ~$60. I've reraised the initial bettor, which signals some
strength, but with two to act, I need a clearer picture of where I'm at.

But, if I'm in MP and I do have second nuts, I'm going to smooth call
the original bettor, or min raise him to generate some action. So I'm
going to have to say the chances of him having trips are pretty small,
having second nuts or better is about the same. So the only likely
hand this guy has is top pair with a high spade, maybe JJ or 10-10,
but he would have raised from MP pre-flop unless he was trying to
replay a WSOP episode, which might be likely considering his poker t-
shirt.

So yeah, I'd push.

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

Wes — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:52:29 -0000

Maybe not the most memorable, but currently dominating my analysis:

This past Friday at the Borgata, playing 1-2, sat with 100, had run up to 270 only losing one showdown and cultivating a very tight, very solid table image against some loose-aggressive players 3-5 to my left. Been playing well and winning without having any strong pockets, but never getting caught having to show a bad play.

Having folded more than a full round in succession, i look at 7s8s in the button with 2 limpers. I bump to 10, my standard open raise thus far. BB calls, limper in MP calls. Flop comes Q 5 6 all spades. I've flopped a flush with a draw to the stone-cold nuts. BB bets out 20 into 30+ pot, MP raises to 100, I move in for 160 more, sure I have the best hand but wanting anyone with a naked high spade to have to pay for it. I put the BB on top pair, MP raiser on a pair with K or A spades.

Right now, would you have played this any differently? Only other option i see is smooth calling the 100, but with a player behind who could re raise (though his stack was smaller than mine), and be ready to fold if a 4th spade comes. This play is against all of my instincts, however, especially in a cash game, but I also had a time limit and did not have much time to buy back in and build back up before I had to leave the tables for at least 4 hours.

So, yeah, without knowing the outcome, how would you have played this? BB was loose but unpredictable, I had a good read on him most of the time, though. MP limper/raiser was decently solid, but had a backwards hat w/ sunglasses on top and a poker-themed shirt, and gave me an impression of thinking he was better than he was but could hide it with confident-seeming aggression.

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

John — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:36:31 -0000

One of my most memorable and enjoyable hands happened actually this week.. I have been playing for about 2 years now. Half of my poker time is spent at live games and the other half at home on full-tilt.. I was at home on the 3/6 NL and had Ad10d and raised to 16 pre-flop.. Flop Jd 7d 5d!! Stone cold nuts.. I check he bets 30 and I smooth call. Turn comes Ah.. I bet 30 into a pot of about 100 to make it look like im scared.. He immediately raises me to 75.. Hes got about 200 back and I wanted to raise to make him pot-committed for my shove on the river so I raise him to 125. He calls. River didnt do anything no diamond didnt pair the board, I shove for the rest of his chips and he calls with As7s.. He had 2 pair on the turn and i played him like a fiddle, One of the hands that i believe I played to perfection..

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

algebraist — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:48:20 -0000

It's interesting, in that it's unusual, that Dong Khee's most memorable hand was one that he actually won. More commonly, we remember hands that we lost, usually because of the opponent's idiocy.

I once lost a $700 pot at Galaxy (club in NY -- are they still open?), playing NL1-2, because the other dude was drawing to a flush, when I already had trips on the turn. Your opponent's idiocy, or sheer perversity and lack of respect for money, is something you always have to take into account. Rationality goes out the window -- and you have to factor this in.

The other thing that we forget is -- while we're busy reading our opponent, she's busy reading us. We make a play, and get called, and get called out, and we fume: how the fuck could you make that call? They made that call because they had a read on us. And this is a mindfuck -- poker is a moving target, and the target shoots back.

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

raymond1138 — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:42:00 -0000

I too am impressed with your hand recall.

I suppose part of it is that I've tried to treat each hand like its own little battle in the greater war so I try to push them out of my head. That's not to say I'm not trying to profile my opponents at the time.

I suppose if I had to find a memorable moment, it was the first summer that I regularly played poker: the summer between high school and college where I chose not to work and earned a little spending money playing five-card draw and mooching off my friends at late-night Denny's sessions. Add to that a good dose of insomnia and watching old WSOP coverage on ESPN probably around 1999 and I was itching to find a game again. It only took me 8 years to find it.

Once I found my way to JG's house, I got the bug bad and got some scratch together, bought some books and chips and felt, and started a micro-stakes home game. Add a couple of trips to AC to the mix and I'm proud to be the degenerate I am today.

Re: What’s your most memorable hand?

iflyhigh — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:03:32 -0000

Your hand recall is nuts.

I don't remember any one particular hand that opened up the game for me. That last trip to Vegas was a serious epiphany of religious magnitude. For the first time, the game was crystal clear to me and I could easily divorce the random elements from the elements that I could exert influence over to sway the game my way.

Got a long ways to go yet, but, I honestly feel for the first time in the six years I've been playing that my game is hard to approach by others.